Trade-Off(s): Making Sense of the Trump Tariffs w/ Stephen Vaughn

The Civic Podcast

Markus WagnerUniversity of Wollongong

Published: May 16, 2025


In a world full of uncertainty and division, people want answers to uncomfortable questions.

We are law professor Markus Wagner and lawyer and software developer David Turner, the hosts of the The Civic Podcast: Beyond the Echo Chambers.

We give challenging ideas a fair hearing and know that understanding doesn’t require consensus.

Join us as we navigate the complexities of politics and society and explore the stories shaping our world.

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